Faction Summit

[*MimiFearthegn]

Sasha interjected:

"I'm sure there's lots of tragedy in the Hive, but as others have pointed out, they live in the conditions they do because a fair portion of them want to be able to get away with shady things. However, for the portion that are victims, they need hope. I don't see how the Dustmen, the Doomguard, or the Bleakers - all of whom basically deny there being any point to hope - can give them that.

"Which leaves us with the Xaositects as being the only neutral faction with ties to that area, if we're giving it away. But why, exactly, are we giving the area away to someone? If we care so deeply about the Hivers, shouldn't we be asking them who they want ruling the area and patrolling their streets?

"Anyway, all of that aside, if we are really interested in charity here, that's how any initiative in the Hive should be run - as a Charity. It shouldn't be about the law, or factional power, but rather about everyone giving the people who are interested in giving of their time to help the funds, buildings, and resources to do so. Right now, the only organization remotely like this is the Weary Spirit Infirmary, but they only provide free medical care. Trade schools and a poor house seem like good places to start further charitable ventures."

[*Selebius]

He just smiles at Charae's remark- a rare and amused smile. Looking over to the Sensate he answers:

"I fear if you ask the Hivers you will hear a 'noone'. As for Charity... as much as I like a ball or some festival I fear it will not change anything on long term."

[*MimiFearthegn]

Sasha coughed, and looked slightly irritated at Hasclaan.

"I didn't say ball or festival. I said Trade Schools - which I think would address exactly the points you brought up previously.

"I think its also a very important point that the Hivers themselves would probably say 'no one' - which means that whoever you say is in charge will probably find themselves in the same position as the Harmonium now. I suspect this would lead to a blood bath. Is that what you all want?"

[*Selebius]

"A tradeschool is good."

He nods in agreement.

"But I have to asks... why as a charity? Charities require a steady influx of money, often leading to said money used for things it was not meant for.

I instead suggest to recruit personell from the hive, to eductate them, to teach them how to run the business. To give them a way to do something, to give them something they can be proud of.

An investment, not a charity, a first step to independence for them. What do you think? Is it possible?"

[*Viper901]

Charities, trades, businesses... well all well and good, will do very very little to correct the conditions in the Hive so long as the Law cannot be fully enforced there to protect such projects. Open a shop, it will be looted in a day. Build a home, taken over in a week. Give someone a few coins to feed them... stolen before bread is bought... all by those who live there specifically to exist in chaos and lawlessness.

No, I'm afraid very few of these things will make much difference so long as the enforcers of law cannot make inroads into the Ward.

I'd still like to hear how the suggestion of enforcement by these other Factions might correct that, if only enough to have a chance for these other projects to succeed.

[*DarkArc]

"That's pretty much what Sasha just suggested, Hasclaan. And I think she has a point. The residents in the Hive have wanted some measure of voice for quite a while. They need a representative that has the respect of the people that reside there, not someone who was lawfully appointed over them without their say."

[*Viper901]

Well, Charae... the city is not a Republic. They cannot simply pick and choose whose law they must obey. They will simply have to accept the councils law.

[*Selebius]

"Indeed. Which is why I suggest to heed the advice of the factions who reside in the Hive. They know this place, the people, the rules that are at work there."

[*DarkArc]

The dark elf shrugged. "I wasn't suggesting they be above the law, Garen. You misunderstand. Handing the Hive over to the Bleakers, Doomguard, and Dustmen isn't going to change anything other than the kind of problems we'll see next. Re-arranging the seats on a sinking ship won't save it. You have to patch what's causing it to leak and the problem with the Hive isn't that the Harmonium are incapable but that the Hivers simply don't want them there.

"Why do you think that the Hive is known for having the largest amount of Anarchists in the city? The people there don't see our law as their law. If you want to move the Harmonium out or shift them to a different capacity, then if say the Doomguard went back to watching the streets, it wouldn't be long until you have the same issue. A representative from their faction having a voice on the council is what they will want if you want to have a hope of order being solidified in that area. We need to give their issues voice, otherwise it is just shooting in the dark."

[*MimiFearthegn]

"One Charitable Organization has, in fact, managed to function in the Hive - the Weary Spirit Infirmary. I would suggest consulting the people who volunteer there about how to best function in the Hive itself."