PvP Auto-Consent List

*cdnspr
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Posted by *cdnspr »


This is something I saw on a server I used to play on, and it proved to be a pretty popular idea.

The idea is that once you sign here, you automatically consent to any (properly RP'd) PvP, and you can assume auto-consent for anyone else on this list.

This eliminates the old "hey, how do you feel about PvP?" you need to ask, which has spoiled more than one ambush.

Ground-rules:
  • Signing here signs you up for all of your characters; no picking&choosing.
  • In order to use this list to assume someone auto-consents, you have to be on this list too. If you aren't on this list and the person you want to PvP is, you still gotta ask for their permission. This is to prevent people exploiting the list, and only PvPing when they feel they have the upper-hand.
Too easy, right?

I'll be keeping a condensed list, in alphabetical order, in the reply below. Moderators are welcome to update it too.

I'll go first.
cdnspr
*cdnspr
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Posted by *cdnspr »


The PvP Auto-Consent List:
  • cdnspr
*Lost and not Found
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Posted by *Lost and not Found »


All darthiir are considered to be auto-consent for PvP.
:P


But on a bit more serious tone, does PvP death still cause a normal death? That'd be the normal gold and experience penalty.
*cryptc
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Posted by *cryptc »


Lost and not Found,Sep 18 2009 wrote: All darthiir are considered to be auto-consent for PvP.
:P


But on a bit more serious tone, does PvP death still cause a normal death? That'd be the normal gold and experience penalty.
Yes it does, if you respawn.
*Mausman
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Posted by *Mausman »


that's why auto consent will not be popular over here, besides, look at said server.....if it's the one we both refer to, we both know it's a dying server now BECAUSE of that rule and the underdark opening up.
*cdnspr
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Posted by *cdnspr »


I wouldn't say it's dying.
If it were, I'm not sure that's the reason. It's not why I left, anyway. There are.. other reasons. Which wouldn't be appropriately discussed here.
But yeah, you're right, this idea may not be popular here, while there's no automatic or optional subdual.
*Marek Ovilion
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Posted by *Marek Ovilion »


I'd agree to this simply because PvP is an integral part of conflict in story. Which is bound to happen in any good story. However, I see too many things wrong it.

#1) There's no justice system on the server scripted in, so there's no real way of defining whether someone could be 'punished by code' (quite literally), without a DM being present.

#2) As the above, but while it stands to reason, it only takes one person to make this system go awry as it is even without consent and start hacking people to little bits just for fun.

#3) Conflict on this server is almost nil, unless you count the quick banter and slights of a few. I have yet to meet a truly evil character that just gives Marek the utter heebie jeebies thinking about going around him.

#4) Would this really be adhered to in game, or until a few just PL themselves all the way up to 30 so they can fight in the conflict?

So, in response to this, I won't be signing until the above issues can be handled. I see too much meta-gaming that could arise from this. For example, how many right now would truly pick a fight with some of the known high levels OC then take that knowledge and use it IC? My answer, realistically, to you: Very few.

Yes, I have lack of faith in quite a few on the server to actually RP the scenario.

Sorry, if that sounds cynical but it's been a recent observation.
*Aidelynn
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Posted by *Aidelynn »


Marek Ovilion,Sep 22 2009 wrote: #3) Conflict on this server is almost nil, unless you count the quick banter and slights of a few. I have yet to meet a truly evil character that just gives Marek the utter heebie jeebies thinking about going around him.
It's interesting that you say that, Marek. In the last three days I have had one character kidnapped and ritually murdered with his soul sent to the Abyss by one of the server's well-loved PCs.

I have also had a second PC kidnapped (granted, it was by my own PC) and had it lead to one enormous PvP melee ultimately taking 4 PCs to kill the 5th after that 5th PC terrorized 7 or 8 other PCs at various times.

In the last week, I have had a third character killed in PvP, (apparently) for flirting too openly.

In the past month, yet another character of mine was tracked down and caught by several PCs after he had murdered still another PC. The characters who caught him heard his story and felt that the murder was actually an act of justice, and he went free.

There are at least 3 seriously evil PCs wandering around Sigil currently. The best evil is hidden and almost never has open PvP.

Anyway, my point is that there is plenty of conflict in large or small places. I have not really played with you much so I apologize for not drawing you into any of the conflicts. If you are looking for more conflict, make some. If you don't want to jeopardize Marek, that's okay. Make a gutter rat that you know is going to be caught picking the wrong person's pocket. Create a madwoman and have her accuse someone of killing her husband. Get people into positions where they have to choose a side and watch what follows.

From what I have seen of you, you could do that well.

*Mabus
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Posted by *Mabus »


In a high RP environment I just assume that PvP will be a natural part of it. If it happens to me, then I would just take it as such and act on it accordingly. From my experience murder is not very common. I think most people are scared or uncomfortable RPing that sort of character. And those who are are usually very good at that sort of RP. Usually if something becomes OOC problematic the issue is dealt with by the proper authorities. I would rather think a list would be appropriate for people who do NOT want to be involved directly in PvP.
*Lost and not Found
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Posted by *Lost and not Found »


Well, my character is the kind of guy that only feels truly alive when in combat - or playing cards. His style consists of the random madness of a thunderstorm, unpredictability of the slaadi and unmatched grace with blade. At least on the paper.

He is not all that fond of the Darthiir. He will rather cut a throat open than let a spell be casted. And couple of other things that might easily lead to PvP.

And I must say most people I've met are somewhat keen to get smacked, gutted and sliced into pieces.

The thing just is, I don't think I quite wanna. :mellow:

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